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Programme Number: 034
Week of: Sunday, 6th February, 2005
Recording Date: Thursday, 10th February, 2005
Topical Issue(s):
" SUDAN, DARFUR: The key partners/architects of
Sudan's landmark comprehensive peace agreement between
the north and north attend a special session of UN Security
Council in New York, but Darfur and on-going atrocities
dominate the discussions. Sudan's First Vice-president
rejects recommendations that those who committed crimes
in Darfur be tried by the International Criminal Court.
NARRATOR:
Hello and Welcome to United Nations Radio from New York.
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NARRATOR:
This is, UN and Africa. And I'm, Ben Dotsei Malor.
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The key architects of Sudan's comprehensive peace agreement
lay out their plans and hopes for success, during a
special session of the UN Security Council.
Southern Sudanese leader, John Garang, says this deal
is real and workable.
CLIP-1, JOHN GARANG, BEST DEAL : DUR"
"We believe that this is the best way to achieve
justice and equality for all Sudanese irrespective of
whether they are Arab or African origin, whether they're
Muslims or Christians,
and if we work in partnership
as Sudanese."
But good news from the north-south peace deal is tampered
with deep concern over the world's worst man-made humanitarian
crisis in Sudan's Darfur region. Sudan's first Vice-President
Ali Othman Taha, wants the world to give Sudan money
for reconstruction and development but his government
rejects calls for war criminals to be tried by the International
Criminal Court.
CLIP-2, VICE-PRESIDENT TAHA : DUR"
"We are here to persuade the Security Council to
seek their wisdom and the rationale in brining those
accused before trail in Sudan. We strongly believe that
there are no grounds at all on taking suspects outside
the country."
NARRATOR:
And what more could the African Union do to help end
the suffering in Darfur quickly.
Stay tuned to UN and Africa.
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DARFUR, SUDAN: SECURITY COUNCIL MEETS WITH TAHA AND
GARANG
NARRATOR:
The world's worst man-made humanitarian crisis continues
to unfold in the Darfur region of Western Sudan, with
continuing insecurity and many people being killed.
At the same time, the UN and the international community
are trying to lend support to the implementation of
the recently-signed Comprehensive Peace Agreement between
the Khartoum government and the Sudan people's Liberation
Movement of South Sudan.
The widespread belief and expectation is that the successful
implementation of the north south agreement should help
a great deal in ending the crisis in Darfur.
To this end, the key architects of the peace deal,
First Vice-President Ali Othman Taha and Jon Garang
of the SPLM have just been explaining to the UN Security
Council in New York their thoughts and plans on how
the agreement could be implemented successfully and
quickly and how the worrying problem of Darfur should
be addressed.
The crucial role of the African Union in ending the
Darfur has also been highlighted, with the participation
of a special representative Baba Gana Kingibe of Nigeria.
But pertinent questions remain:
What are the key milestones ahead for the Peace Agreement
of Sudan?
" Why are the killings continuing in Darfur?
" How exactly can someone like SPLM leader John
Garang help to end the killings and insecurity in Darfur?
" Why is the Sudanese government objecting to recommendations
that those who have committed terrible crimes in Darfur
should be tried by the International Criminal Court?
All these questions, and much more, are addressed in
this programme.
First, the President of the Security Council, Joel
Adechi of Benin, explained the council's objectives
in inviting First Vice-President Taha and Dr Garang
to New York.
ENVOY ADECHI: WHY MEETING
"The Security Council is holding discussions on
the situation in Sudan with a view to address some pending
issues such as the establishment of the United Nations
peacekeeping operations to implement the Naivasha Agreement
, the development of the relationship with African Union
mission in Darfur, the full implementation of the obligation
of the parties involved in conflict in Darfur, and the
follow up of the report of the International Commission
of Inquiry of the grave violation of international humanitarian
law committed in Darfur."
Dr Garang said the Sudan agreement was unique.
SPLM'S GARANG: ONE NATION TWO SYSTEMS
"We, the Sudanese, have ourselves voluntarily negotiated
a unique comprehensive peace agreement, which for the
lack of better terminology prescribes a one country
two systems model. During the six years of interim period,
at the end of which the people of southern Sudan and
Abie will exercise the right to self determination,
to choose between the remaining and the new and united
Sudan or opt out for an independence of Southern Sudan."
He said it was the ideal arrangement to end so many
decades of war.
SPLM'S GARANG: BEST DEAL
"We believe that this is the best way to achieve
justice and equality for all Sudanese irrespective of
whether they are Arab or African origin, whether they're
Muslims or Christians, through a voluntary union and
we believe that we shall achieve this goal if we implement
the comprehensive peace agreement and if we work in
partnership as Sudanese."
Dr Garang said his people in the south of Sudan have
embraced the agreement and already started returning
to their homes.
SPLM'S GARANG: IDPS AND REFUGEES
"Refugees and internally displaced persons are
already moving to their respective homes in southern
Sudan, Nuba Mountains, Blue Nile and Abie before the
necessary minimum social amenities are put in place
and that's putting the host communities, even in further
distress, in an already fragile situation. And I take
this opportunity of this visit to the United Nations
Security Council to call and urge the international
community to act speedily to help us in the enormous
task of voluntary return, re-integration, rehabilitation
of the returnming refugees and internally displaced
persons."
SEGUE
ACTUALITY ARABIC BY TAHA IN COUNCIL
Along the same theme of assistance for the people of
Sudan, the First Vice-President Ali Othman Taha called
for international assistance and support for the reconstruction
and development programmes outlined in the peace agreement.
He said economic and trade restrictions or sanctions
must also be lifted and he called for all of Sudan's
foreign debt to written off.
All these key issues are to be given further attention
during a Sudan donors' conference being organised by
the Norwegian government in Oslo next month.
But whilst acknowledging the positive developments
in Sudan's north-south agreement, Ambassador Adechi
said the council remained very concerned about the on-going
crisis in Darfur.
ENVOY ADECHI: GRAVE DARFUR CONCERNS
"The council remain gravely concerned by the grave
situation prevailing in Darfur. The counsel calls upon
the parties to do their utmost to bring the conflict
in Darfur to an end as quickly as possible through a
sustainable political settlement including the rapid
agreement to a declaration of principle in the frameworks
of Abuja Peace talks. The council expressed his concern
and condemnation of the continuing cease fire violations
and acts of violence as especially those reported in
these last weeks."
The Security Council also heard a clear summary of
the situation in Darfur over the past six months from
the UN envoy in Sudan, Jan Pronk.
SRSG JAN PRONK: SIX MONTH SUMMARY
"Over past six months, performance of the government
of Sudan in complying with its commitments and obligations
have been uneven. Humanitarian access in Darfur has
improved due to the lifting of the restrictions of the
humanitarian assistance delivery last summer. However,
action on human rights, particularly measures to end
impunity have fall short of what the government agreed
to and what the Security Council has demanded
Fighting on the ground continues
the cease fire
has not been kept. Those responsible for atrocious crimes
on massive scale still go unpunished."
Mr Pronk paid special tribute to the African Union
troops who are on the
SRSG JAN PRONK: AU TROOPS GREAT
"The peace support force by the African Union is
doing a good job. I've met highly professional military
personnel dedicated to their mission committed to assist
victims of war, willing to be proactive and to take
risks, not staying in their barracks or behind their
desks noting on report on what has gone wrong, but going
out in order to prevent things from getting worse. The
troops sent by the African Union are so good that we
need many more of them."
The AU's Special Representative Baba Gana Kingibe of
Nigeria told the Council that more AU troops should
be deployed in Darfur by May.
AU'S KINGIBE: DEPLOY BY MID-APRIL
"For logistical and other constraints full deployment
status has not yet been achieved. However as of yesterday
the 7th of February the African Union has deployed on
the ground in Darfur 370 military observers, 1410 protection
force 35 military police and 11 cease fire commission
officer and 81 civilian police. Additional 300 troops
will soon be deployed from South Africa and Chad. Ultimately,
and with the continuing indispensable material and financial
support from our partners, especially the United States,
the European Union, Canada, the Netherlands, the United
Kingdom, Germany and others
every effort will be
made to accelerate the current program of full deployment
of the total strength of 3,320 by the middle of April
of 2005."
And Mr Pronk reported ongoing fighting in Darfur. He
said there was clearly ethnic cleansing still going
on.
SRSG JAN PRONK: ETHNIC LEANSING
"During my visit to Darfur ten days ago, I saw
the dramatic consequences of tribal or ethnic cleansing
in dozens of villages carried out by militia during
the month of January.
The militias are strong and well organized and there
seems to be a sort of invisible hands behind their actions.
There are forces back in Sudan not inside the government
yet powerful and have the capacity to spread terror
on the ground waging war against innocent people, women
and children who are denounced as different and are
told to the leave the places they were born and lived
and never come back."
The issue of atrocities and war crimes continuing in
Darfur led to a discussion of the recent report and
the recommendations of the International Commission
of Inquiry for Darfur, which has called for those found
to have committed these crimes to be tried.
Mr Kingibe expressed the African Union's concern over
the matter.
AU'S KINGIBE: CRIMES MUST BE PUNISHED
"By whatever name called, the crimes in Darfur
were heinous and must not go unpunished."
Dr John Garang agreed and said impunity in Darfur must
end.
He indicated that he was - at present - helpless in
taking any firm action in a personal capacity, until
the formation of a government of national unity.
SPLM'S JOHN GARANG: GOVT OF NATIONAL UNITY
"In a few weeks, this will be a new government.
We'll call it the Government of National Unity, it will
be under a new constitution, the Interim National Constitution.
Such a government would, of course, have different policies
I'll
be part of that government and those policies will be
discussed within that government and I will back my
contribution."
In the meantime, the Sudanese government remains opposed
to the idea of having the accused government officials,
Janjaweed militiamen and other being tried outside of
Sudan. First Vice-president Taha.
VICE-PREZ TAHA: ICC WILL HINDER PEACE
"We do believe that the Sudanese legal system and
the judiciary is professional enough and able to do
justice and that the government will respect whatever
judgments that would be passed so we do feel that the
government of Sudan and the legal system of Sudan is
competent and able and willing to do justice."
And he said the Khartoum government will reject the
ICC idea.
VICE-PREZ TAHA: REJECTS ICC IDEA
"We are here to persuade the Security Council to
seek their wisdom and the rationale in brining those
accused before trail in Sudan. We strongly believe that
there are no grounds to warrant taking suspects outside
the country. And we strongly feel that such an action
would very much help pushing things down
it will
push things to degenerate rather than help people to
reconcile or to maintain peace."
This disagreement over who should prosecute accused
war criminals could result in some criminals going free,
according to Mr Kingibe.
AU'S KINGIBE: SPEEDY JUSTICE
"In our view, the central concentration should
be how to obtain speedy but comprehensive justice in
the most cost-effective way. So that clear lessons are
learned and salutary examples are set so that after
Rwanda and now Darfur, we can truly say no more."
And Mr Kingibe stressed the need and the hope that
success in the implementation of north-south agreement
should helped greatly in ending the crisis in Darfur
and bringing lasting peace to the whole of Sudan.
AU'S KINGIBE: SUMMARY
"Indeed, how the implementation of the North-South
Comprehensive Peace Agreement unfolds will determine
not only the future of Darfur and the other unresolved
contentious issues in Sudan but the future of the country
as a whole."
The Security Council will now consider all these problems
in Sudan and come up with its own recommended steps
over the next few days.
NARRATOR:
And that's it for this edition of UN and Africa, focussing
-for the second week in a row - the humanitarian crisis
in Darfur and the political situation in Sudan as a
whole.
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NARRATOR:
Thank you for listening and thanks to the production
team of, Derrick Mbatha, Nyi Nyi Teza and Rosie Starr.
I'm Ben Dotsei Malor.
Take good care and goodbye.
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