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Programme Number: 032
Week of: 23th January 2005
Recording Date: Thursday, 27 January 2005
UNITED NATIONS SEXUAL ABUSE SCANDAL IN THE DR CONGO
NARRATOR:
Hello and welcome to United Nations Radio from New York.
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NARRATOR:
You're listening to, UN and Africa. And I'm, Ben Dotsei
Malor.
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NARRATOR:
In this special programme, We're dealing with the serious
problem of sexual exploitation by SOME UN peacekeepers
in the Democratic Republic of Congo. The UN's head of
peacekeeping operations, Jean-Marie Guehenno says people's
trust in the UN has been betrayed.
CLIP-1, GUEHENNO:
"I feel a mix of outrage and anger. I feel angry
too because it demoralizes the mission, it destroys
the trust that the Congolese have in MONUC and the efforts
of the United Nations, it is a big stain on us."
NARRATOR:
In the meantime, the UN is taking measures like imposing
curfews and keeping its troops away from the local population,
but DR Congo's envoy to the UN, Atoki Ileka, says more
needs to be done for the victims?
CLIP-2, ILEKA:
"We should find a clear way for reparations for
all of the victims, and 15,000 dollars? That's not the
way to go. When a person is raped in New York City or
in Europe there they're getting much more than that.
It's not because people are black or African that they
should get less
a human life is a human life
whatever colour it is."
NARRATOR:
We'll also be hearing also for the head of the UN mission
in the Dr Congo, William Swing, about steps being taken
to bring the offenders to book .
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DR CONGO: UN SEXUAL SCANDAL
NARRATOR:
The UN's Department of Peacekeeping Operations has begun
taking a number of urgent measures to deal with the
serious problem of sexual abuse and exploitation by
peacekeeping personnel in the north-eastern Democratic
Republic of Congo.
Some of the measures being taken include new training
to sensitise peacekeepers about sexual misconduct, and
the re-examination of peacekeeping policies in order
to change the culture in peacekeeping missions, for
the better.
A four-month investigation has been conducted in and
around the town of Bunia, and out of 72 original allegations,
investigators have substantiated six of the cases against
some peacekeeping troops from three nations. A civilian
United Nations staff member has also been arrested and
given over to his government to be prosecuted.
During interviews with investigators, Congolese women
and girls confirmed having regular sexual contact with
peacekeepers, usually in exchange for food or small
sums of money. Many of these activities involved girls
under the age of 18, and some were as young as 13.
But how widespread are these abuses?
What has the UN done or is doing to stop these abuses
and bring the offenders to book?
What about the victims? What help are they receiving?
We'll hear from the DR Congo's UN envoy in a moment.
But first, the UN's top man on the ground in the DR
Congo, William Swing, speaking about the scale of the
problem.
SWING1: SHOCKED AND SICKENED
"We have had and continue to have a serious problem
of sexual exploitation and abuse. We are shocked by
it. We are outraged. We are sickened by it."
Mr Swing's outrage is shared by the head of the UN's
peacekeeping department, Jean-Marie Guehenno.
CLIP GUEHENNO
"I feel a mix of outrage and anger. I feel angry
too because it demoralizes the mission, it destroys
the trust that the Congolese have in MONUC and the efforts
of the United Nations, it is a big stain on us."
Mr Guehenno is also concerned that ordinary people
in the DRC have also had their trust in the UN, betrayed.
GUEHENNO: CREDIBILITY DAMAGED
"There is no question that when that kind of abuse
happens, it hurts our credibility. You know, for me
I have the memory of going to Bunia and seeing the gratitude
of the people in Bunia, so when we betray the confidence
they place upon us, it is unconscionable."
Such a betrayal of trust is even more serious because
many of the victims were already brutalised during Congo's
civil war. Investigator Barbara Dixon, from the UN's
Office of Internal Oversight Services, explains.
DIXON7: TRAUMATISED GIRLS
"Tthese girls had already been traumatized by being
raped and abused during the course of the war. What
they knew is if they wanted to eat, this was the way
to do it. Right. Sex for a couple of eggs. Sex for a
dollar. It wasn't like there was a price list. There
would be an offering to them of some food or a small
amount of money and then they would agree to it."
This climate of general poverty and hunger has made
the girls and women more vulnerable, according to Mr
Guehenno.
GUEHENNO: BROKEN NATION
"You are in a broken country, with extreme misery,
and you insert a force with power, with money. The imbalance
between power and money and that extreme misery
the
risk of that imbalance creating an exploitative environment
is quite high."
Within this atmosphere, investigators have been finding
it difficult to identify the main culprits. Barbara
Dixon says many of the allegations have been non-specific.
DIXON1: GENERAL ALLEGATIONS
"They have been very general
'girls near
the mango tree'
'Seventeen-year old near a round-about.'
' Girls near an abandoned house.' Given the nature
of the allegations and how generalized they are, and
given the fact that we were dealing, in many cases,
with very young girls, who can't distinguish one non-Congolese
from another, who had already been traumatized by the
strife in the Ituri province, the fact that we were
able to put together evidentiary cases with victims
and witnesses picking people out of line-ups is, in
my view, frankly amazing under these circumstances."
But she acknowledges that the problem is widespread.
So what has been done to stop and prevent the abuses?
Here's the UN envoy to the DR Congo, William Swing.
SWING16 MEASURES
"We have done curfews. We are looking at off limits
t areas. We have instituted the number and places like
Bunia and Kisangani and elsewhere in Kalemie. Now a
lot remains to be done."
And some of these measures should include a permanent
ban from the UN for all offenders, according Barbara
Dixon.
DIXON ON BANNING OFFENDERS / BLACKLIST
"In the detailed reports that we have given we
have made particular recommendations in that regards,
everything from, ensuring that the individual soldiers
and others that we have identified through these investigations
don't appear any place else, whether at Headquarters
or on another peacekeeping missions, that they are prominently
blacklisted. And finally, I would like to say that we
did run into fairly substantial resistance from some
of the contingent commanders. They didn't want looking
at it. This is not unheard of in the military. And I
will say that to his credit, Mr. Swing and the Force
Commander jumped in, sent someone to meet with us in
Bunia. Even the Force Commander Deputy was kept waiting
for two days before he could even get a meeting with
one of the contingent commanders. At the end of the
day, thy forced compliance even as noted, pulling people
literally off airplanes, getting the plane off taxi
way."
UN envoy Swing thinks a database of the offenders would
also help.
SWING1 OFFENDERS:
"Any of these cases where we know that these people
are guilty, we need to develop a database to make sure
that they never again darken the doorway of the Secretariat,
or any of our missions or any of our agencies, so that
there is a database and their name pops up. I think
that's terribly important."
BARBARA DIXON:
"We have made recommendations for prevention. The
girls and women involved need to know that there is
a safe harbour where they can go and make a report and
they need to know that we have professional investigators
who know how to do these kinds of cases. Not everybody
who is a trained investigator even can do them. To send
civilians out to try and do this only wreaks havoc."
In addition to this, Head of peacekeeping Jean-Marie
Guehenno also believes that Military Commanders in the
field must strictly enforce discipline over their troops.
GUEHENNO: COMMANDERS:
"You need the contingent commanders to see as part
of their command responsibility the need to enforce
the strictest discipline in their contingent. We need
in the induction, in the message to the troop contributing
countries to make it clear that this a fundamental command
responsibility, and if sexual cases come up in his contingent
that's a recipe for immediate repatriation of the contingent
commander, because it mean he does not perform his command
responsibilities in an adequate manner. That's really
the issue. It's units and not countries."
And he says the rules must be obeyed.
GUEHENNO: RULES ARE CRYSTAL CLEAR
"The rules of the UN are crystal clear. The sexual
majority is eighteen, for the United Nations. Any sex
with under eighteen is against the UN rule. That is
crystal clear."
But the difficulty for Mr Guehenno and the United Nations
is that, by the agreement reached with the troop contributing
nations, when wrong-doers are caught they cannot be
prosecuted by the UN but by their respective governments.
So far, action has been taken against two soldiers and
one civilian has been imprisoned in his own country.
UN envoy William Swing says the UN is also working through
some quick-impact programmes to help the victims in
the DR Congo.
But what about the government of the DR Congo? What
do they think about what is happening? I caught up with
the DR Congo's envoy to the UN, Atoki Ileka and asked
him for his reaction?
INTERVIEW: AMBASSADOR ATOKI ILEKA.
"AMBASSADOR ILEKA:
This is not a new issue, actually. Our government has
been complaining since 2000 about misconduct of some
troops within the UN and nothing had been done. They
have waited, maybe that have some alternative investigation,
I don't know. But it's only this year - that means four
years later - that the whole issue if popping up because
now it's taking a wider scale and it's giving some discredit
on the UN. And I can tell you for the moment, for many
of the Congolese they have no more confidence for the
UN and that confidence we have to restore it because
it's very important if we want to achieve our transition
and to have a new Congo and in that way the UN has a
crucial role to play in the DRC and it's important that
we tackle the issue and we try to solve it as soon as
possible."
BEN MALOR:
You're suggesting the UN, particularly, has been very
slow in taking up your complaints of sexual exploitation
in your country?
AMBASSADOR ILEKA:
That's exactly what I'm saying. It took more or less,
four years from the first complaint by the Congolese
government and now though the action the UN is taking
now is too long, four years. Now it's come to the stage
where it has become a scandal and I think because it
has become a scandal that is known worldwide that the
UN is taking steps to solve it. But they should have
listened to the government four years ago.
BEN MALOR:
Specifically, what practical action would you expect
the United Nations to take in these cases?
AMBASSADOR ILEKA:
Bon, that's a very difficult one. When a person is convicted
of sexual abuse, okay, one thing is to arrest him. I
understand that they have to be expelled and brought
back to their country where they should face also justice.
Then they should have a follow-up for those persons,
to be sure that they are facing justice. But in the
other end we want to see some practical measures towards
the victims. But we don't see [that.] I heard the SRSG[Envoy
Swing] speaking about programmes and quick[-impact]
programmes etc. Those quick[-impact] programmes were
not intended for those cases. When we established MONUC
[the UN peacekeeping mission] we told MONUC that wherever
there would be a UN base they would have to favour some
kind of development on the sites surrounding the bases.
That was the quick[-impact] programme was intended for
and not to address the issues of victims, such as rape.
We should find a clear way for reparations for all of
the victims, and 15,000 dollars? That's not the way
to go. When a person is raped in New York City or in
Europe they've got much more than that. It's not because
people are black or African that they should get less
a human life is a human life, whatever colour
it is.
UN RADIO'S BEN MALOR:
People would say that since MONUC, the UN peacekeeping
mission got into the DR Congo they have made some difference.
Would you say that the difference or the good that the
United Nations is doing has been wiped out by this scandal?
AMBASSADOR ILEKA:
No, I'm not saying that it has been wiped out by the
sexual scandal. What I'm saying is that the credibility
of the UN is tainted by this scandal. But nevertheless,
we are the first ones to recognise that since MONUC
has begun to deploy in earlier 2000, the fighting has
ceased as such and that's enabled us to begin political
negotiations and now we are at the end transition and
we are hoping that MONUC will be able to help us through
the elections process and also to ensure stability in
the country after the elections. So MONUC still has
some good days in the DRC and we do hope the scandals
that we have on our hands will be solved, so we can
continue our good collaboration with MONUC."
NARRATOR:
The Ambassador of the DR Congo to the United Nations,
Atoki Ileka.
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NARRATOR:
That's it for this special edition of UN and Africa.
Thanks for listening and thanks to Producer, Derrick
Mbatha, Production Assistant Nyi Nyi Teza, and studio
engineer Marlow Saady.
I'm Ben Dotsei Malor.
Take care and goodbye.
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