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UN Radio
UN and Africa
Programme Number: 177
Week of: Sunday, 4th November, 2007
Recording Date: Thursday, 8th November, 2007
Topical Issue(s):
" Efforts to end the crisis in the troubled Darfur
region of Sudan are continuing following the first phase
which ended in Sirte Libya last week. The spokesman
for the United Nations and African Union envoys to Darfur,
Ahmad Fawzi says the second phase is now ongoing with
a series of workshops both in Sirte and elsewhere.
" Somalis continue to suffer because of fighting
between insurgents and Ethiopian troops supporting the
transitional federal government in Mogadishu. The flare
up of fighting between these forces, nearly a week ago
has displaced 90,000 people, many of whom have fled
towards the town of Afgooye.
" Sarah Omega Kidangasi is a 31 year old woman
from Kenya who was raped at 19, became pregnant, and
got fistula after 18 hours of obstructed labor ending
with a dead baby. In May, after twelve years with fistula,
she had successful surgery. Now she wants to ensure
that other women know that treatment is available.
Producer/presenter: Derrick Mbatha
Editor: Ransford Cline-Thomas
Production Assistant: Florence Poblete-Enriquez
Studio Engineer: Zach Pruwit
Duration: 15'00"
PRESENTER: This is United Nations Radio in New York.
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PRESENTER: Hello and welcome to UN and Africa. I'm Derrick
Mbatha.
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PRESENTER: In today's programme, talks to find a lasting
solution to the crisis in the troubled Darfur region
of Sudan have entered the second phase.
CLIP 1: Ahmed Fawzi
"The process began on Saturday the 27th of October
and continues and will continue until a peace agreement
is signed."
PRESENTER: You will hear more on that in a moment.
Also in this edition, Somalis who have been forced by
fighting to flee Mogadishu continue to suffer in makeshift
camps for internally displaced people.
CLIP 2: William Spindler
"The UN team on Saturday visited a therapeutic
feeding centre with some fifty malnourished children,
some of them too weak to cry."
PRESENTER: Also in this programme, a young Kenyan woman
talks about the hardship she endured in a hospital as
a result of a pregnancy caused by rape.
CLIP 3: Sarah Omega Kidangasi
"After three days of post delivery, I realized
that I was leaking urine and that is the time I was
told that I had got a fistula"
PRESENTER: You will hear more on that later.
So, stay tuned to UN and Africa.
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Second Phase of Process to Resolve Darfur Crisis Continue
PRESENTER: Efforts to end the crisis in the troubled
Darfur region of Sudan continue following the first
phase which began in Sirte, Libya almost two weeks ago.
The spokesman for the United Nations and African Union
mediating team, Ahmad Fawzi, who attended the talks,
says the second phase is now ongoing with a series of
workshops both in Sirte and elsewhere. Mr. Fawzi told
me that the talks had representation at the highest
level from neighbouring countries, regional organizations
and major world powers.
FAWZI: The process began on Saturday the 27th of October
and continues and will continue until a peace agreement
is signed. We had seven movements with 27 leading personalities
from the movements. Now, it didn't succeed in brining
the key leaders to the talks but we are saying that
this is a process that's open and we hope that they
will join, they will join soon. After the opening the
second day, there were two plenaries, very lively debates
and speeches and interventions by not only the two parties
but civil society. Civil society is playing a very important
role in these talks. You have women groups, students,
union leaders and other members of civil society and
we believe, the envoys believe they should continue
to play a very important role. They go back to their
constituencies, they talk to their people, they convince
their rebel movements and the government to make this
process a success. The movements are so fragmented that
they do not present a viable negotiating partner to
the government of Sudan and we are trying to get them
to do that, unify their positions and come up with a
single credible delegation to the talks, which is Phase
Three in December.
MBATHA: You are making the point that the process has
started and there are phases. So phase one is done with.
So let's talk about Phase Two.
FAWZI: Phase Two began and we moved seamlessly from
Phase One into Phase Two over the last weekend. It will
be characterized by a series of workshops both in Sirte
and elsewhere. The chief mediators are there. The special
envoys have left the talks to the chief mediators to
conduct and they are from the AU, Sam Ibok and from
the UN Tayé-Brook Zerihoun who is also the Deputy
Special Representative of the Secretary General in Sudan.
So these workshops are designed to help the movements
prepare their positions on issues that are extremely
complex such as wealth sharing, land, compensation,
power sharing and governance, security and these workshops
should take three to four weeks after which Phase Three
should begin.
MBATHA: And that will be when?
FAWZI: We expect, all going well, all being well the
first week in December to see Phase Three begin, that
is the third of December onwards.
MBATHA: As you are aware the leader of South Sudan,
Salva Kir was at Headquarters this week to consult with
the Secretary-General and South Sudan, of course, has
been playing a role in trying to get the Darfur movements
to come up with a common position. What do you expect
South Sudan to play now?
FAWZI: Well he came out of his meeting with the Secretary-General
and said some very encouraging things about the end
of war in Sudan, that there would be no military solution
to this conflict. And we hope that he will be able to
persuade his partners in Khartoum to respect the ceasefire
and to make other commitment as well to the displaced
people, and compensation and reconstruction efforts
should to hand in hand with this. So, he can play a
very important role in persuading the Sudanese government
to deliver the goods.
MBATHA: And as you know, of course, closely related
to this is the deployment of this hybrid United Nations
African Union force in Darfur. When is that expected
to take place?
FAWZI: Well it's starting already. It has started and
the handover, the official hand over from AMIS, the
African Mission in Sudan to UNAMID, the UN Assistance
Mission to Darfur should take place on the first of
January as planned with or without a peace agreement.
But we do hope there will be a peace agreement because
it will make life very difficult for the peacekeeper
if there was no peace to keep.
PRESENTER: That was Ahmad Fawzi, the spokesman for
the joint United Nations-African Union mediation team
that is helping to resolve the crisis in Darfur.
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Somalis Displaced by Conflict Continue to Live in Hard
Conditions
PRESENTER: Somalis continue to suffer because of fighting
between insurgents and Ethiopian troops supporting the
transitional federal government in Mogadishu. The flare
up of fighting between these forces nearly a week ago
has displaced approximately 90,000 Somalis, many of
whom have fled towards the town of Afgooye west of Mogadishu.
UN Radio's Ransford Cline Thomas reports.
NARRATOR: The fighting between the insurgents who were
expelled from Mogadishu by the forces of the transitional
federal government with the support of Ethiopian troops
has forced Somalis to literally live on the road between
Mogadishu and Afgooye, while others are hovering around
the town to the west of the capital. United Nations
agencies sent a team to the small town over the weekend
to assess the conditions. Well, they found thousands
of newly displaced Somalis living in extremely harsh
conditions. UNHCR spokesperson William Spindler says
that new makeshift settlements have mushroomed along
the road between Mogadishu and Afgooye.
CUT 1: William Spindler
The evaluation mission, which was led by UNHCR, found
that in some places, the settlement population had more
than doubled, putting further strain on scant resources
and facilities around Afgooye. In general, newly displaced
families have joined relatives who had fled earlier
in the year to Afgooye. Entire families are now crammed
into tiny huts.
NARRATOR: Water is being trucked daily to the settlements
but supplies cannot meet the increasing demand. William
Spindler says there are also concerns about the health
and security needs of women and children who are the
most vulnerable sections of the population in this crisis
situation.
CUT 2: William Spindler
Hygiene remains poor in the crowded settlements raising
fears of an outbreak of cholera. There are also concerns
about the nutritional status of young children. The
UN team on Saturday visited a therapeutic feeding centre
with some 50 malnourished children, some of them too
weak to cry. Leaders in some of the settlements also
reported several cases of rape and called for improved
security and protection of the IDPs.
NARRATOR: United Nations and other relief agencies
say they are doing the best they can to try to help
the displaced people in Somalia. One of these agencies
is the World Food Progamme, whose spokesperson is Christiane
Berthiaume.
CUT 3: Christiane Berthiaume
We have distributed and we are distributing more than
2,500 tones of food to the new displaced people in Afgooye
and around Afgooye. We have done that on 27 spots along
the road from Mogadishu to Afgooye.
NARRATOR: One of the problems that aid agencies face
as they try to deliver assistance to the needy people
of Somalia is piracy. In fact, only this Monday there
were reports that pirates freed a Taiwanese vessel and
its crew kidnapped almost six months ago off the Coast
of Somalia. Again Christiane Berthiaume.
CUT 4: Christiane Berthiaume
We need escorts to bring the food into Somalia. These
people that are displaced are displaced on the eastern
part of the country and the only way for us to reach
those people is by boat. And obviously piracy in the
region, it's highly risky to go by boat in this area
but this is the only way. We cannot go via Kenya like
we do for the south of the country because there is
no secure road. So this is our only way.
NARRATOR: Of course, aid agencies can only help alleviate
the suffering of the displaced people in this part of
the Horn of Africa. The United Nations independent expert
on Somalia, Dr. Ghanim Al Najjar sees the root cause
of fighting in Mogadishu as what he calls the tribal
basis of the Somali government. He also says there is
a regional dimension to the crisis in Somalia, pointing
out that the Somali opposition is hosted by the Eritrean
government while the transitional federal government
in Mogadishu is supported by Ethiopian troops. And so
what does he propose should be done to deal with this
situation?
CUT 5: Dr. Ghanem al-Najjar
I propose that the Security Council takes this matter
very seriously and inject some new ideas and the idea
is to propose a peacekeeping operation, major one, with
human rights component in it and to replace the Ethiopian
forces on gradual basis. The new force has to include
also some Islamic and Arab countries and I know some
already showed an interest to take part in this
NARRATOR: In the meantime, the numbers of Somalis who
are being forced by the conflict to flee their homes
continues to rise. The United Nations refugee agency
estimates that more than 800,000 have been displaced
by the fighting. Reporting for UN Radio, I am Ransford
Cline-Thomas.
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Young Kenyan Woman Campaigns for Women to Get Treatment
for Fistula
PRESENTER: Fistula is a childbirth injury that is usually
caused by several days of obstructed labour without
timely medical intervention to relieve the pressure.
The baby usually dies and the woman is left with chronic
inability to control movements of the bowels or bladder
or both. That condition often brings the pain of being
abandoned by a husband and family and shunned by the
community. Sarah Omega Kidangasi from Kenya knows that
first hand. One of nine children and an orphan since
age eleven, she was hospitalized for depression this
year. In May, after twelve years with fistula, she had
successful surgery and now wants to ensure that women
know that treatment is available. UN Radio's Bissera
Kostova, picks up the story with this courageous Kenyan
woman.
KOSTOVA: Can you tell me about your own experience that
prompted you to become an advocate?
KIDANGASI: In 1995 I was raped. The rape was my first
experience with a man that led to unwanted pregnancy.
Then being taken to the health facility it took long
due to that distance and there, due to the doctors negligence,
I was left pushing for more than 18 hours before I was
transferred to another health facility. Due to lack
of oxygen in that very facility so originally, in another
health facility which is a mission hospital, the baby
had already died so I just went for a caesarean section
so I gave birth to a still born baby boy of about 4.8
kilograms. Then after three days of post delivery, I
realized that I was leaking urine, and then was the
time that I was told that I got a fistula.
KOSTOVA: And what happened after that, did you get
treatment right away?
KIDANGASI: No, it wasn't possible because on that very
facility, I was told that I can seek further medical
assistance and I was told that at the moment, at that
health facility there were no doctors, there were no
specialists. So I was told I could get the financial
for a doctor from abroad to come and repair the "thing".
So due to my financial status, or our family financial
status, we couldn't afford that so I was just discharged
and I went home in that condition.
KOSTOVA: So when did you finally get treatment?
KIDANGASI: It is after 12 years with the condition.
It is this year in April that I suffered depression
in the facility that I was taken. I was suffering depression.
I was told that now the fistula treatment is there and
it's a bit affordable. So that is now in May that I
went for repair in the same health facility
KOSTOVA: So how did you cope in the meantime, what
was your life like?
KIDANGASI: It was horrible really, it was unbearable.
It's hard to explain because people cannot understand
it. And it is something that I wouldn't want to dream
that there are ladies or a woman somewhere in the same
condition.
KOSTOVA: And when did you start speaking out about
this?
KIDANGASI: Immediately after being discharged, I had
a heart for these women because I realized that if at
all I suffered for 12 years, then there must be so many
women back in our countries suffering the same way I
suffered so I decided to go public and talk about it.
PRESENTER: That was Sarah Omega Kidangasi, a young
woman from Kenya who survived fistula and is now an
advocate to ensure that other woman know that treatment
is available for this condition. She was speaking with
UN Radio's Bissera Kostova.
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PRESENTER: And that's all for this edition of UN and
Africa. Our Production Assistant was Florence Poblete-Enriquez
and our sound engineer was Zach Pruwit. I am Derrick
Mbatha saying bye-bye.
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