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UN Radio
UN and Africa
Programme Number: 176
Week of: Sunday, 28th October, 2007
Recording Date: Thursday, 1st November, 2007
Topical Issue(s):
" Talks to find a solution to the crisis in the
Darfur region of Sudan continue in the City of Sirte
in Libya. Not all the representatives of the factions
from Darfur are participating in the talks but the UN
and AU envoys say the peace process has started and
will continue.
" UN agencies say that most of the over 100 children
were almost flown out of Chad in a suspected trafficking
operation probably came from villages along the border
with Sudan. UNICEF spokesperson in Chad says investigations
are going on.
" African countries got a boost in their development
efforts with a commitment from a giant company to invest
more than five billion to improve their information
and communication technologies. These technologies are
seen as an engine for economic growth on the continent.
RESENTER: This is United Nations Radio in New York.
PRESENTER:
Hello and welcome to UN and Africa. I'm Derrick Mbatha.
PRESENTER:
In today's programme, talks to end the crisis in the
troubled Darfur region of Sudan continue in the Libyan
city of Sirte although some of the major Darfur movements
are not participating
CLIP 1: Jan Eliasson
"I note that there is great impatience in the international
community and the Security Council has made mention
of the need to cooperation with the mediation."
PRESENTER:
You will hear more on that in a moment. Also in this
edition, the saga of over one hundred children who were
almost taken out of Chad to Europe continues.
CLIP 3: Mariam Coulibaly Ndiaye
"What we know is that the normal procedures, the
standards and the norms when you have to take children
from one country to another have not been complied with.""
And later in this edition, we look at the promotion
of information and communication technologies in Africa.
So, stay tuned to UN and Africa.
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until first sentence)
UN and AU Envoys Press Ahead with Darfur Peace Process
in Sirte, Libya
PRESENTER:
Talks to resolve the conflict in the troubled Darfur
region of Sudan which began in the Libyan City of Sirte
over the weekend continued this week. The envoys of
the United Nations and the African Union are co-chairing
the talks which have been attended by representatives
of the people of Darfur, the international community
and countries of the region. UN Radio's Ransford Cline-Thomas
reports.
NARRATOR:
The joint United Nations and the African peacekeeping
operation for Darfur, known as UNAMID, began to establish
itself in El Fasher, where it will be headquartered
for its operations in the troubled Darfur region. The
deployment of UNAMID will provide protection for the
displaced people of Darfur where a conflict has claimed
more than 200,000 lives and displaced two and a half
million people. As UNAMID was establishing itself in
Darfur, talks to find a lasting solution to the conflict
in that region continued in the city of Sirte in Libya.
Not all the Darfur factions attended the talks. But
according to the United Nations envoy for Darfur, Jan
Eliasson it was important for the representatives of
the government of Sudan and some of the movements which
attended to sit across from each other and actually
discuss the conflict.
CUT 1: Jan Eliasson
We have brought them to the same room but also in the
presence of representatives of the people of Darfur.
I think the interventions by thee representatives of
civil society were moving, were a sign of the longing
for peace of the people of Darfur.
NARRATOR:
The envoy for the African Union, Salim Ahmed Salim,
expresses a similar view, stressing that the mere convening
of the meeting and the attendance by the international
community signified a total commitment to this process.
CUT 2: Salim Ahem Salim
Secondly, we had a number of movements which attended
the meeting, showing also their desire to engage towards
finding a peaceful resolution to the conflict. Then
we had the component of the civil society, and this
is remarkable because for the first time in these processes
we have had the actual engagement and the actual involvement
of civil society in attempts to forge ahead.
NARRATOR:
One of the issues that were expected to be discussed
and decided on in these talks was the end of hostilities
in Darfur. Salim Ahmed Salim says that so far there
is a political commitment to this objective.
CUT 3: Salim Salim
When we talk about a ceasefire as such, that requires
a mechanism. That requires detailed arrangement. That's
why we said we were hoping that when you the parties
here it would be possible to do that. Of course, you
know the government of Sudan has made a declaration,
unilateral declaration on cessation of hostilities which
we welcome, but it is very important also to have the
position of the movements.
NARRATOR:
Jan Eliasson says that the first stage of the process
is over which included the ceremonial opening, the general
debates and statements in plenary. Participants are
now finalizing discussions on the agenda, format and
structure with the movements and the government.
CUT 4: Jan Eliasson
We will remain a couple of days in Sirte to do that
work, but then we will seamlessly move into the second
stage which is the stage of engagement of the parties
in preparations for substantive talks. Because of the
absence of some key leaders, we need to most probably
have missions to other parts of the region to conduct
those preparations.
NARRATOR:
As for the factions which are not participating in the
talks, Jan Eliasson says that during this preparation
phase, there will be a better picture of the best parties
to negotiate. One notable faction absent during this
phase is the Sudan Liberation Movement led by Abdul
Wahid el Nur.
CUT 5: Jan Eliasson
Abdul Wahid and his faction still have a chance to
get on the train at a later stage. However, I note that
there is great impatience in the international community
and the Security Council has made mention of the need
to cooperate with the mediation. So I hope that there
are decisions taken soon on whether Abdul Wahid's faction
would want to come along, be part of this process.
NARRATOR:
Jan Eliasson says that in the end, it will depend on
how strong the political will is among the parties to
conclude their negotiation positions in the talks. As
for Abdul Wahid el-Nur, who is seemingly popular among
the internally displaced people in Darfur, Mr. Eliasson
expressed the hope that he would not stop the voices
of these people from being heard. Reporting for UN Radio,
I am Ransford Cline-Thomas.
STING UN AFRICA THEME MUSIC
PRESENTER:
UN Agencies Identify Children Who Were Almost Flown
out of Chad
Last week more than one hundred children were almost
flown out of Chad by a French charity. Today the United
Nations children's and refugee agencies together with
the Red Cross issued a joint report saying that the
children, between the ages of one and ten, probably
came from Chadian villages along the border with Sudan.
Nine French nationals, seven Spaniards as well as at
least two Chadians were arrested in eastern Chad last
week, for allegedly trying to smuggle the children to
Europe. But the French charity organization involved
called Zoe's Ark denies the charges and says it was
trying to help orphans from Sudan's troubled Darfur
region by placing them with European families. To find
out more about this saga, I called the UNICEF representative
in Chad, Mariam Coulibaly Ndiaye. She told me, relief
workers have been talking to the children to find out
where they came from and that further investigations
are still going on.
NDIAYE: What we know is that the normal procedures,
the standards and the norms, when children have to be
taken cared of, when you have to take children from
one country to another have not been complied with.
MBATHA: And what are those procedures?
NDIAYE: For example, you cannot take children when
you don't have papers, when you have no documentation
for them. You don't take children away when you have
no information about their parents. If a close family
is not there, there is also an option to look for the
relatives. If you don't have solution with the relatives,
you also have to see in the community and you have to
keep in mind that everything should be transparent,
that international and local law must be respected and
complied with.
MBATHA: Yes, talking about that, do you have any idea
as to where these children's relatives are?
NDIAYE: We are still working on this now because working
with children, you have to be very patient, you don't
have to do it too quickly. You have to listen to them.
Sometimes they can talk about their parents. They can
talk about where they are coming from. When you just
want information you have to come back again and to
cross check. And from what we have gathered, at least
85 among these children are coming from some region
between Chad and the Sudan but more toward the border
within Chad.
MBATHA: Now I saw a report the other day and some of
these children were crying, that was a television report,
how are these children. Are they traumatized by this
experience?
NDIAYE: Such a thing will never leave any child without
some kind of trauma. We have to be aware of that. Once
the child is away from his natural and normal environment,
it is a trauma. And especially for these children, since
they have been taken from places to places and you have
seen in the report, all of these people going around
the children -- that was too much. It will have an impact
on any child. But what I can tell you now, talking about
health, they are in good health, I can tell you that.
MBATHA: Have you had similar incidents before, children
being taken out of Chad or any other African country
to Europe?
NDIAYE: At this extent, such organized thing, with
so many children at the same time, taken abroad, overseas,
that is really my first time to see it I must say. And
I hope that it will not be replicated.
PRESENTER:
That was Mariam Coulibaly Ndiaye, the representative
of UNICEF in Chad.
STING UN AFRICA THEME MUSIC
Africa Promotes Growth of Information and Communication
Technologies
PRESENTER:
African countries got a boost on Tuesday with commitments
to invest more than fifty billion dollars in their information
and communication technology industry. This came at
the end of a two-day summit in Kigali, Rwanda, which
brought together African political leaders, executives
of information and communication technologies companies,
and heads of development banks. UN Radio's Dianne Penn
reports.
NARRATOR:
The African continent is known for lagging behind in
development which, in turn, affects its ability to eradicate
poverty on the continent. But African countries have
the potential to speed up their development using information
and communication technologies. So when the one thousand
or so participants gathered in Kigali, they heard that
companies are ready to invest in information and technologies
in Africa. In fact, technology giant GSM pledged fifty
billion dollars in additional investments in the information
technology sector. In addition to that the World Bank
doubled its commitment to two billion dollars. One of
the participants in Kigali meeting, Sarbuland Khan,
the Executive Coordinator of the Global Alliance for
Information Communication Technology for Development
says there is enough evidence that these technologies
are engines of growth where they have been deployed
effectively.
CUT 1: Sarbuland Khan
And it has accelerated services, education health, business,
e-government, but it has also improved productivity
for both labour and capital and as a result accelerated
overall patterns of growth in the world. Even Africa
is growing much faster. The rate of growth now has doubled
in Africa than it was ten years ago.
NARRATOR:
Mr. Khan says a good example of using information and
communication technologies is Rwanda, which hosted the
summit on information and communication technologies
in Africa. He recalls that ten years ago the country
was in a crisis caused by genocide and conflict but
has picked itself up using these technologies.
CUT 2: Sarbuland Khan
Today the Rwandan government is paper free. The cabinet
of this country works without paper. And its health
system, the entire country's health system has been
corrected so that the government is functioning more
efficiently. The results are visible. If you go to Kigali
today, it is almost a miracle. This city is clean. This
city is stable, peaceful, growing and President Kagame
has the vision to do it effectively, although it is
still very small the results are already visible.
NARRATOR:
It is generally accepted that investment by the private
sector will help the continent transform its economies.
In fact, Rwandan President Paul Kagame set the tone
at the beginning of the meeting when he said the continent
needs investment and trade as opposed to aid and charity.
But of course, for Africa to effectively use these technologies,
it needs trained people. Michael Rawding of Microsoft
Corporation says his company is already training people
on the continent.
CUT 3: Michael Rawding
We have trained over 20,000 teachers and those 20,000
teachers have access to over 21 million students. Basically
we are helping to enable teachers to use technology
to be more effective in the classroom. We have also
focused on jobs and skills that will lead to economic
opportunity for people.
NRRATOR:
Mr. Rawding says Microsoft Corporation has also established
information academies in twenty countries in Africa
in order to meet the demand for skilled people in information
and communication technologies.
CUT 4: Michael Rawding
Now once you have a broad base of people that are trained
in IT, what we are going to do is help them take the
next level and create innovation and through this innovation
create new jobs and new companies. So we have a programme
called the Microsoft innovation centres where we co-locate
within academic institutions or government institutions
innovation centres that are very advanced, that are
focused on entrepreneurs and small companies that enable
them to obtain skills, both technological skills and
business skills to really go into business for themselves
and to accelerate the growth of their companies that
are IT-related companies.
NARRATOR:
The Connect Africa Summit in Kigali pledged to ensure
that the African continent is fully connected by 2012.
And it hopes that villages and rural areas will also
be connected by 2015. Reporting for UN Radio, I am Diane
Penn.
SIG TUNE (Bring up briefly, dip and hold under)
PRESENTER:
And that's all for this edition of UN and Africa. Our
Production Assistant was Nyi Nyi Teza and our sound
engineer was Zach Pruwit. I am Derrick Mbatha saying
bye bye. *** CLOSING MUSIC ***
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