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UN Radio
UN and Africa
Programme Number: 172
Week of: Sunday, 30th September, 2007
Recording Date: Thursday, 4th October, 2007
Topical Issue(s):
• The weekend attack in Darfur that killed
African Union peacekeepers prompted the President
of the Security, Ambassador Leslie Christian
of Ghana to call an emergency meeting on the
issue. The Council condemned the attack and
reiterated its support for the African Union
Mission in Sudan.
• Drug trafficking is so serious in Guinea
Bissau that it was the first thing that the
country’s president highlighted when he
spoke before the General Assembly which concluded
its general debate this week. The head of the
UN Support Office in Guinea Bissau is worried
that drug traffickers might buy the country’s
politicians in the next elections.
• One of the casualties of the thirty-year
conflict in Angola was its justice system, especially
its detention facilities and courts. This is
what a delegation of the United Nations Working
Group on Arbitrary Detention discovered in its
mission to the country last month.
Producer/presenter: Derrick Mbatha
Editor: Ransford Cline-Thomas
Production Assistant: Charles Appel
Studio Engineer: Zach Prewitt
Duration: 15’00”
RESENTER: This is United Nations Radio in New
York.
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PRESENTER:
Hello and welcome to UN and Africa. I’m
Derrick Mbatha.
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PRESENTER:
In today’s programme, the Security Council
condemns the killing of African peacekeepers
in the troubled Darfur region of Sudan.
CLIP 1: Leslie Christian
“The Security Council deplores the loss
of life and injuries that resulted from this
attack and conveys its sympathy to the government,
families and colleagues of those killed and
injured’
PRESENTER:
You will hear more on that in a moment. Also
in this edition, drug trafficking is posing
a serious threat to Guinea Bissau.
CLIP 2: Shola Omoregie
“If drug dealers are able to buy a parliament,
then they have bought a government, and they
have bought a country. That’s why we are
worried”
PRESENTER:
And later in the programme, we’ll talk
about the challenges that Angola is facing in
its criminal justice system.
So, stay tuned to UN and Africa.
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Security Council Condemns Killing of African
Peacekeepers in Darfur
PRESENTER:
The weekend attack in Darfur that killed 10
African Union peacekeepers was discussed by
the Security Council this week. The attack occurred
while a group of world figures led by Archbishop
Desmond Tutu was visiting Sudan, and the Security
Council meeting coincided with the start of
Ghana’s presidency of the Council. UN
Radio’s Dianne Penn reports.
NARRATOR:
On his very first day as the President of the
Security Council on Monday, Ambassador Leslie
Christian of Ghana called an emergency meeting
of the Council to respond to the attacks on
a base of the African Union Mission (AMIS) in
Haskanita, in south Darfur. According to reports,
rebels and militias in trucks outnumbered and
outgunned African peacekeepers at a base manned
mainly by Nigerians, killing at least ten. The
Security Council condemned the attack and demanded
that the perpetrators be identified and brought
to justice. Ambassador Leslie Christian of Ghana
read the statement on Tuesday.
CUT 1: Leslie Christian
The Security Council deplores the loss of life
and injuries that resulted from this attack
and conveys its sympathy to the governments,
families and colleagues of those killed and
injured. The Security Council reiterates its
support for the African Union Mission in Sudan,
AMIS, and commends the dedication of its personnel
and expresses its appreciation for those countries
which contribute troops to AMIS.
NARRATOR:
But the Security Council could not agree on
a formal condemnation of the attack because
of a disagreement over whether to call it a
terrorist attack. Ambassador Dumisani Khumalo
of South Africa explains.
CUT 2: Dumisani Khumalo
Most of us feel that this was a terrorist act.
Every report that we have received points out
that it is done by the rebels. We would have
preferred a very specific statement. The others
argued that, of course, they wanted there to
be an investigation to find out what happened.
But the most tragic event is that these people
were attacked at 7:30 at night. They went away
and came back again for them at 4:00 in the
morning.
NARRATOR:
The attack on the AU peacekeepers comes just
weeks before the start of negotiations in Libya
to find a political settlement of the Darfur
crisis. Ambassador Abalmahmood Mohamad of Sudan
sees a link between the attack and the talks
between Sudan and rebel groups, to be held under
the chairmanship of the United Nations and the
African Union.
CUT 3: Abdalmahmood Mohamad
I think one of the objectives of those who perpetrated
this attack is to reserve a seat for them on
the train of peace starting, or heading towards
Tripoli. But I think they have exposed themselves
because they are just criminals. They can do
no good to their country and to their people
as well as to peace in Sudan. This should make
us more vigilant in protecting and guarding
the Tripoli talks in order that nobody is allowed
to tumble or spoil either the good climate prevailing
now prior to the talks or during the talks themselves.
NARRATOR:
The attack raised new concerns about risks to
a planned deployment of a joint African Union-UN
force of 26,000 next year, and given some countries
second thoughts about committing troops. The
hybrid African Union/ United Nations peacekeeping
force, known as UNAMID, is expected to take
over from the seven-thousand strong African
Union mission. And how did the man who will
be in charge of UNAMID peacekeepers react to
the attack? United Nations spokesperson Marie
Okabe.
CUT 4: Marie Okabe
Martin Luther Agwai, the Force Commander and
the future UNAMID Force Commander designate
said that it was regrettable that such actions
are taking place weeks before the convening
of the Tripoli Peace Talks. Despite the casualties
and loss of life, we will persevere in our efforts
to keep the fragile peace on the ground while
all eyes are set on the negotiation table to
ensure the peace is a lasting and sustainable
one.
NARRATOR:
The Joint African Union/United Nations Special
Representative for Darfur, Rodolphe Adada has
met with General Agwai on the situation in Haskanita
and assured the General that both organizations
stand firm in their resolve to help bring peace
to Darfur. Reporting for UN Radio. I am Dianne
Penn.
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PRESENTER:
Guinea Bissau does not produce illicit drugs,
but it has increasingly become a transit points
for drugs, mainly cocaine, from Latin America
to Europe. There are concerns that as the country
prepares for elections next year, drug money
may be used to corrupt the democratic system
there. The representative of the United Nations
and head of the UN Peace-building Support Office
in Guinea Bissau, known as UNOGBIS, Shola Omoregie,
is in New York, and has briefed the Security
Council on the situation in Guinea Bissau. UN
Radio’s Diane Bailey caught up with Mr.
Omoregie to discuss, among other things this
problem of drug trafficking. Here is Diane.
Bailey: The president of Guinea Bissau spoke
before the General Assembly and the first thing
he highlighted was the issue of drug trafficking.
Can you paint a picture of how Guinea Bissau
has become a transit point for drug traffickers
and what that means for the country?
Omoregie: The problem Guinea Bissau has is
that it has porous borders and also sea coasts.
They have about 80 to 90 islands and there is
no police presence at all. It is just like heaven
for the drug traffickers. They are able to do
whatever they like there without anybody stopping
them. So it’s because of this weakness
of Guinea Bissau that the drug traffickers have
taken advantage and from there the drugs are
shipped to Europe, to Spain, Portugal and others.
The main entry point into Europe is Spain. Now,
as to the quantity of what comes in we are not
able to say because some of the arrests that
have been made, are not really intelligence-driven.
Some of them are by accident. So you can imagine
what goes on without anybody knowing. But we
understand that on some of the islands there
are flights landing there about twice a week
and bringing a huge quantity of cocaine into
the country. The government now is trying to
do something about it.
Bailey: I would like to talk a little bit about
what happens when drugs enter into the country
either by air or through the ships. I read reports
that people actually find the drugs and they
don’t know that it is and they have actually
put them on food and things like that. Are you
aware of that kind of thing happening?
Omoregie: Yes. I understand that happened once.
They were even used as fertilizers without realizing
what they were. So you can imagine the danger
of these drugs on villagers or ordinary people
of Guinea Bissau. Even for the authorities there,
they have no laboratory. When they seize these
drugs they are not able to analyze what they
have seized. So I think this is why they need
assistance from the international community.
Bailey: What about the UN Office on Drugs and
Crime? Are they able to help them with personnel
or any other lab testing equipment or anything
like that?
Omoregie: Yes, UNODC is helping them and UNODC
is also working closely with UNOGBIS, my office
in Guinea Bissau. And at the initiative of UNOGBIS
UNODC will be seconding one of their staff to
Guinea Bissau to work with the government to
help them to pull up their capacity.
Bailey: This drug trafficking problem which
probably wasn’t foreseen when UNOGBIS
was created, how is it complicating the work
that the mission is doing?
Omoregie: Oh, drug trafficking undermines the
political stability of the country, political
and economic stability of the country, in fact,
everything we are doing. Here you have a country,
the annual budget is about $100 million. This
is what will come in one week, the amount of
drugs that will come in one week. And then you
have a country where the workers are not paid.
The police are not paid and when they are paid
it’s very late and it’s very little
and there is serious abject poverty in the country
and it’s very easy for the drug dealers
to compromise officials. And, of course, we
have elections coming up next. We are very worried
that drug money will be involved. And what really
concerns us now is that if drug dealers are
able to buy a parliament, then they have bought
a government and they have bought a country.
That’s why we are worried. It completely
undermines our work. People will prefer to go
for easy money then the hard way.
PRESENTER:
That was Shola Omoregie, the Representative
of the Secretary-General in Guinea Bissau speaking
there with UN Radio’s Diane Bailey.
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PRESENTER:
One of the casualties of the long civil war
in Angola was the country’s criminal justice
system. Angola does not have enough courts and
detention facilities. A delegation of the United
Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention
was in the country last month at the invitation
of the Angolan government to look into this
situation. I spoke with the Chairperson of the
Group Leila Zerrougui who led the mission to
Angola. She told me that the main objectives
of the visit were to assess the legal and institutional
framework governing detention and to help the
government improve its criminal justice system.
Zerrougui: We were allowed to meet first with
the authorities involved in detention at the
political and at the technical level. We also
met ordinary people, civil society, opposition
leaders. We met with former detainees, families
of detainees. So we have access to all the segments
that can help us to understand the situation
with regard to detention in general. We also
visited, because it is the main purpose, places
of detention, prisons, police stations, investigation
facilities, immigration detention centres. We,
however, could not visit two facilities, the
military prison. We have been informed in Cabinda
by the Commander in Chief that he has not received
authorization from the authorities in Luanda.
And also we could not visit a detention facility
in Luanda. We were there but we could not talk
to the detainees. The same argument was given
to us by the director of those detentions centres.
Mbatha: Did you inquire about that or you just
accepted the explanations as given?
Zerrougui: No, no, no. In our press release
we already said that we are not convinced by
that because before leaving Geneva we had assurance
from the government that the visit will take
place and the government will comply with our
terms that we have access to all places of detention
that we would like to visit and to have private
interviews with all the detainees. So this is
something that was not said before we left Geneva.
Mbatha: By doing so it may appear that maybe
they were trying to hide something.
Zerrougui: It’s a pity because the government,
I can say, cooperate very well us and it’s
a pity that these two incidents occurred, specifically
the one with regard to immigration centre because
the day before I was with the Vice Minister
of Interior who is the authority, the centre
is under the authority of the Minister of Interior,
and the Vice Minister of Interior ensured that
they have nothing to hide and they are ready
give access to the Working Group to all places
of detention.
Mbatha: Now you say that you were able to meet
privately with some of the detainees.
Zerrougui: Absolutely. Many detainees.
Mbatha: No interference whatsoever by government
officials.
Zerrougui: No, no, no.
Mbatha: Now, what did these detainees tell
you?
Zerrougui: I think that, as you know, Angola
peace is only for five years and so detention
facilities were destroyed and also conditions
of detention are not improved. Detainees complained
about their conditions of detention, complained
about backlog, an important backlog because
of shortage of judges, lawyers, prosecutors.
The country is not covered by courts, in 165
municipalities only forty municipal court, very
few lawyers outside the capital and also not
enough prosecutors. So in this image you can
imagine the situation of those who are deprived
of their liberties sometimes waiting for a long
time. And also we noticed that in police stations
ill-treatment also is taking place and some
detainees complained about that.
Mbatha: And what kind of ill-treatment is that?
Zerrougui: I can say that ill-treatment first
because of the conditions of detention, the
way interviews are taking place. Sometimes they
forced confessions. But in at least three cases
I can use the term torture.
Mbatha: When you talk about conditions do they
include deprivation of food, sleep?
Zerrougui: No. The problem is the overcrowding.
It’s the huge problem. Government is trying.
I can say that they are building prisons. New
prisons conditions are good. The problem is
with the old prisons. They are overcrowded.
PRESENTER:
That was Leila Zerrougui, the Chairperson of
the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary
Detention.
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PRESENTER:
And that’s all for this edition of UN
and Africa. Our Production Assistant was Charles
Appel and our sound engineer was Zach Pruwitt.
I am Derrick Mbatha saying bye bye.
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