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UN Radio
UN and Africa
Programme Number: 164
Week of: Sunday, 05 August 2007
Recording Date: Thursday, 09 August 2007
Topical Issue(s):
• Groups that have not signed the Darfur
Peace Agreement met in Arusha, Tanzania, and
agreed on a common platform for peace talks
with the Sudanese government. UN Envoy Jan Eliasson
tells UN Radio that there is now need to maintain
the momentum to resolve the Darfur crisis.
• August 9 is marked as the International
Day for the World’s Indigenous Peoples.
In Kenya, indigenous Maasai women continue to
face discrimination, even from their own societies,
which do not recognize their right to inherit
land.
• As part of the efforts to achieve the
Millennium Development Goals, African leaders
held the Second Capacity Building Forum in Maputo
from 1 to 3 August. UN Radio discusses the outcomes
of the meeting with the Deputy Executive of
the New Partnership for Africa’s Development,
Dr. Hesphina Rukato.
Producer/presenter: Derrick Mbatha
Editor: Diane Bailey
Production Assistant: Charles Appel
Studio Engineer: Zach Prewitt
Duration: 15’00”
RESENTER: This is United Nations Radio in New
York.
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PRESENTER:
Hello and welcome to UN and Africa. I’m
Derrick Mbatha.
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PRESENTER:
In today’s programme, Darfur rebel groups
agree on a common platform for negotiations
with the government.
CLIP 1: Jan Eliasson
“The situation is fragile and there are
pitfalls in the very, very difficult conflict
of Darfur. So, we can’t take a deep breadth
yet but let’s hope very much that this
positive momentum is now being kept up.”
PRESENTER:
You will hear more on that in a moment. Also
in this edition, the indigenous Maasai women
of Kenya continue to face discrimination.
CLIP 2:
“In the Maasai culture a woman does not
have any access to inheriting land, resources
or anything.”
And later in the programme, African leaders
hold their second capacity building forum in
Maputo, Mozambique.
So stay tuned to UN and Africa.
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Darfur Leaders Agree on Common Platform for
Talks with Government
PRESENTER:
Hopes have been raised again this week for
and end to the suffering of the displaced people
of Darfur after their representatives agreed
on a common platform for negotiations with the
Sudanese government. They did so at a meeting
held in Arusha, Tanzania, co-chaired by the
Special Envoys of the United Nations and the
African Union, Jan Eliasson and Salim Ahmed
Salim respectively. But one of the major players
in the Darfur saga, the faction of the Sudan
Liberation Movement led by Abdul Wahid, boycotted
the Arusha talks. Notwithstanding this, the
Special Envoy of the Secretary-General for Darfur,
Jan Eliasson, says the Arusha meeting and its
outcome are very important. He spoke with me
on the line from Khartoum following the talks
which ended on Monday.
ELIASSON: First of all it was an important event
to see members of the different groups who have
been so seriously split and splintered for such
a long time meet together and discuss the common
platform facing the negotiations. They were
working for fifteen, twenty hours and in the
end produced a common platform and common agenda
for the incoming talks. We have received their
views both on power sharing, wealth sharing
and security and indications on the venue and
timing of the meeting.
MBATHA: How was the mood there at the talks?
ELIASSON: Well in the beginning I think there
was some hesitation and some doubts. They were
former friends who had parted company and they
had lived in different parts of Darfur for some
time. But now they successfully or hour by hour
improved the atmosphere and in the end we had
a reception and you could hardly identify any
lines between them. So, I don’t say it
was a complete embrace but it was very much
a nearing of positions and attempts to really
find common ground.
MBATHA: But one of the major participants the
Sudan Liberation Movement was absent. How is
this going to affect the implementation of whatever
outcomes the participants there came up with?
ELIASSON: Well, the Sudanese Liberation Army,
SLA, or SLM, is now divided in approximately
four groups, and one group was not there, the
one led by Abdul Wahid now living in Paris.
I regret still that he did not participate where
he, evidently, did not want to be in contact
with competing leaders of his original party.
But I hope very much that he makes a clear distinction
between this meeting in Arusha with the movements
and the upcoming negotiations. He has a strong
voice in several of the camps and he has a responsibility
in my view to play a role in forming the near
future and the long term future for the people
of Darfur. This is one of the most serious moments
we have had in the recent year, in reaching
a serious and credible process in the political
arena. We had a very good step forward with
the decision of the Security Council last week
for the peacekeeping side, but we need to have
a peace to keep.
MBATHA: You have referred to the Security Council
resolution authorizing the deployment of the
hybrid force in Darfur. How has that affected
your efforts there?
ELIASSON: It has a positive impact. The peacekeeping
progress and progress in the political field
are mutually reinforcing. So we welcome very
much the sign of solidarity and strength from
the international community in taking seriously
the situation in Darfur. The representatives
of the movement were very happy and satisfied
with the move of the Security Council. It also
gives us instruments to monitor a ceasefire
that, I would hope already as part of the beginning
of negotiations. And it will also make sure
that we could have a safe return of the people
in the camps to their villages.
MBATHA: What do you expect to happen next?
ELIASSON: I will meet with the representatives
from the camps, civil society, tribal and traditional
leaders and present the peace plan for political
progress and for peace in Darfur to the people
of Darfur. We got assurances also from everybody
in the meeting in Arusha that they would convey
that this is a serious effort and that they
fully support the African Union and UN efforts.
The situation is fragile and there are pitfalls
in the very, very difficult conflict of Darfur.
So, we can’t take a deep breadth yet but
let’s hope very much that this positive
momentum is now being kept up.
PRESENTER:
That was Jan Eliasson, the United Nations Special
Envoy for Darfur.
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Indigenous Maasai Women of Kenya Continue to
Face Discrimination
PRESENTER:
August 9 is observed as the International Day
of the World’s Indigenous People, to focus
attention on the plight of indigenous peoples
around the world. In Kenya, the indigenous Maasai
people continue to face many challenges, particularly
because they are pastoralists and don’t
have enough access to land. UN Radio’s
Diane Bailey reports.
NARRATOR:
To promote the rights of the world’s Indigenous
Peoples, the General Assembly has been working
on a draft United Nations Declaration on their
rights. The Declaration was adopted by the United
Nations Human Rights Council in its first historic
session in Geneva last year. For the indigenous
Maasai people of Kenya and other African countries,
this declaration is an important instrument.
But Fatuma Ibrahim, who serves in the Kenyan
National Commission of Human Rights, does not
see a readiness by African countries, including
her own to sign the declaration.
CUT 1: Fatuma Ibrahim
Kenya is one of the countries that have declined
to sign the UN Declaration on Human Rights of
Indigenous People. Definitely that is a limiting
factor for the indigenous people of Kenya and
in Africa, because African countries have not
really taken the lead in terms of supporting
the UN Declaration on Indigenous People’s
rights so that people benefit, so that people
can negotiate for their rights.
NARRATOR:
While the indigenous people of Kenya face difficulties
related mainly to land rights, Maasai women
face double discrimination. Ms. Ibrahim says
the conservative nature of indigenous communities
often helps to perpetuate discrimination against
women. She says one area in which their rights
are trampled upon is in inheritance of land.
CUT 2: Fatuma Ibrahim
Indigenous women have been discriminated against
in inheritance. When particularly the husband
dies or their family member dies, they are denied
sometimes to inherit from the property of the
families. Some times they are excluded from
decision making positions.
NARRATOR:
Another Kenyan Maasai activist, Catherine Mututua
agrees.
CUT 3: Catherine Mututua
In the Maasai culture a woman does not have
any access to inheriting land, resources or
anything. They say if a man or a girl, or woman
doesn’t have a son, they cannot inherit
any resources in the community.
NARRATOR:
According to Fatuma Ibrahim, the Kenyan Maasai
women are also ignored by the government which
prefers to negotiate with men on issues affecting
the lives of the Maasai people. And that’s
not all.
CUT 4: Fatuma Ibrahim
Even when you look at government appointments,
the indigenous communities are the least appointed.
But when you look at the few who are appointed,
they are all men. There are no women at all.
There are qualified women among the indigenous
community but they have never been appointed.
If you look at even the number of permanent
secretaries in the country, number of ambassadors
appointed, you hardly see indigenous women in
there because they only give opportunities to
men who are accessible.
NARRATOR:
Helen Nkoyo attributes this neglect of Kenyan
Maasai women to a stereotype which projects
Maasai women as incapable of performing certain
functions in society. She says this stereotype
does not reflect reality of life in Kenya.
CUT 5: Helen Nkoyo
But when you look at the few, for example Fatuma
Ibrahim in the Kenyan National Commission of
Human Rights, she’s been one person many
of us have admired because of her energy, her
strength, her competence to fight for indigenous
people’s rights.
NARRATOR
The Maasai women of Kenya are not just folding
their arms and doing nothing about their situation,
as we hear from Catherine Mututua.
CUT 6: Catherine Mututua
We are trying to create awareness because the
only people who can bring changes are these
women once they know what their rights are like.
So we can start talking to them that they talk
slowly in their families or talk together as
a voice, a group. So that’s why we have
the Maasai Women’s Group so that they
talk sometimes as a voice in their own local
levels and national level and even to the international
levels.
NARRATOR:
Ms. Mututua says that Maasai women who have
obtained formal education should go back to
their communities to help organize and advocate
for their rights of their rights. Reporting
for UN Radio, I am Diane Bailey.
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African Leaders Hold Second Capacity Building
Forum in Maputo
PRESENTER:
The clock continues to tick to 2015, the target
date for meeting eight Millennium Development
Goals, (MDGs) among them, eradicating extreme
poverty, providing primary education for every
child, promoting gender equality, reducing child
mortality, and fighting HIV/AIDS, malaria and
other diseases. And of course, these goals cannot
be met without strong economies capable of providing
the required resources. And sound economies
cannot be built without the capacity to do so.
As part of their efforts to improve the situation
on the continent African leaders have what they
call the African Peer Review Mechanism, (APRM),by
which they monitor what is going on in individual
countries. With that in mind, African leaders
held their second capacity building forum in
the Mozambican capital of Maputo which ended
last Friday. UN Radio’s Abdushakur Aboud
discussed the outcome of the forum with Dr.
Hesphina Rukato, the Deputy Executive of the
New Partnership for Africa’s Development,
NEPAD.
RUKATO: The main resolutions are around what
strategies Africa needs to develop and implement
around capacity for it to be able to achieve
the MDGs. There’ve been discussions around
capacity for growth and capacity in the governance
area but I think the most important thing really
has been the whole agenda also around the training
and retention of skills that have been developed
and the whole issue of Africans owning the development
agenda and taking responsibility for which then
they can partner with our international development
partners.
ABOUD: And apart from that there was the subject
of the Diaspora, a lot of young talented Africans
are leaving Africa to Europe. Is there is any
resolution how to include them in the development
process?
RUKATO: I think there’s been agreement
that there are Africans that leave their countries
by choice but also there are also people that
leave their countries because they have no choice
either for governance, political or social economic
problems in their own countries and that is
where the leadership is being called upon to
be more responsible in terms of governance and
to develop and implement strategies towards
retaining those skills that have already been
developed.
ABOUD: And how has it been discussed to see
that this meeting was not just another meeting
of leaders meeting and discussing and nothing
is really achieved?
RUKATO: There’s been agreement that there’s
going to be follow-up action coordinated probably
by the African institutions that are taking
a lead in this capacity development agenda,
to ensure like you say that it doesn’t
just become one of those talk shops.
ABOUD And how is NEPAD fitting in all this
capacity building, what role is it playing?
RUKATO: NEPAD is currently working on a capacity
development strategic framework whereby we’re
working with countries that have gone through
the APRM process to ensure that they develop
the necessary capacities for them to implement
their programmes of action coming out of the
APRM review process, and for countries that
have not yet acceded to the APRM we are working
with them around their national development
strategies to ensure that targeted capacity
is developed to implement those programmes.
ABOUD: The United Nations has been playing
also a role in capacity building, what was the
role of the United Nations?
RUKATO: We work with UNDP, the UN Economic
Commission for Africa, and other related UN
agencies to ensure that whatever capacity development
initiatives that take place on the continent
from now on they’re well-coordinated and
to ensure that there’s no duplication
or overlap and to also ensure that we effectively
use the resources that we have.
ABOUD: And what really are the main challenges
you think to reach those millennium goals in
capacity building?
RUKATO: I think the main challenges revolve
around the changing of the mindset of Africans
themselves so that they can take ownership of
what is essentially their own agenda and that
when they call upon partners to assist them
it is because they are implementing their own
vision.
PRESENTER:
That was Dr. Hesphina Rukato, the Deputy Executive
of the New Partnership for Africa’s Development,
NEPAD.
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PRESENTER:
And that’s all for this edition of UN
and Africa. Our Production Assistant was Charles
Appel and our sound engineer was Zach Pruwitt.
I am Derrick Mbatha saying bye bye.
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