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UN Radio
UN and Africa
Programme Number: 121
Week of: Sunday,8th October, 2006
Recording Date: Thursday, 12th October, 2006
Topical Issue(s):
" As the crisis continues the troubled western
Darfur region of Sudan, where armed militias attack
civilians and kill civilians, the Office of the UN Human
Rights Commissioner has urged the government of Sudan
to order an independent investigation into these attacks.
Spokesman Jose Diaz says there were massive attacks
and possibly hundreds of people killed.
" The Top UN Humanitarian Coordinator, Jan Egeland,
says pushing for a UN Nations force in Darfur should
not be left to Western Countries. He also expresses
optimism about resolving the long-standing conflict
in Northern Uganda.
" Democratic elections are increasingly becoming
a way of changing governments on the African continent.
The UN Secretary-General's Special Envoy, General Abdulsalami
Abubakar has reported on the elections in the Gambia
where he says there is need to support democracy.
Editor / Presenter: Ransford Cline-Thomas
Producer: Derrick Mbatha
Production Assistant: Florence Poblete-Enriquez
Studio Engineer: Pete Kurisko
Duration: 15'00"
PRESENTER:
This is United Nations Radio in New York.
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PRESENTER:
Hello and welcome to UN and Africa, I'm Ransford Cline-Thomas.
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PRESENTER:
In this edition, the United Nations Office of the High
Commissioner for Human Rights calls for an investigation
into recent attacks on civilians in the South Darfur
region of Sudan.
CLIP 1: JOSE DIAZ
"Whatever the cause of the conflict, the fact is
that it deals with massive and grave violations of human
rights occurring on a daily basis. Things are, according
to all accounts getting worse even since the signing
of the Darfur Peace Agreement in May." (0'13")
PRESENTER:
That was Jose Diaz the spokesman for the UN High Commissioner
for Human Rights. Also in this programme, the United
Nations Emergency Relief Coordinator Jan Egeland is
urging all countries of the world to push for the deployment
of United Nations force in Darfur.
"This global UN force which we need to provide
security and safety for the civilian population for
humanitarian work should be put by ASEAN governments,
by African governments, by Arab governments, by Islamic
countries. Everybody should be concerned." (0'13")
PRESENTER:
And later in the programme, the UN Secretary-General's
Special Envoy for the Gambia, General Abdulsalami Abubakar
says there is hope that if assisted, democracy will
thrive in the Gambia.
So, stay tuned to UN and Africa.
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PRESENTER:
As the stalemate continues over the deployment of United
Nations peacekeepers in the Darfur region of Sudan,
internally displaced people continue to suffer at the
hands of armed militias. The latest reports from human
rights monitors in the troubled region indicate that
since August, 10,000 people have been displaced by these
attacks. This has prompted the Office of the High Commissioner
for Human Rights to call on the government of Sudan
to order an independent investigation into the recent
militia attacks that may have killed hundreds of civilians
in Darfur. On the line to Geneva I spoke with Jose Diaz,
the spokesman for the UN High Commissioner for Human
Rights who told me that there are various theories about
the reasons behind these attacks.
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DIAZ: One of the theories is that the attackers, the
militias to attacked the villages were seeking to empty
them of their inhabitants so that in case an international
force came in that force would then sort of freeze the
situation, there would be a status quo where these areas
were empty of its inhabitants then other people could
be put in their place. But that's one theory. What we
know is that there were massive attacks and possibly
hundreds of civilians were killed in these attacks.
C-THOMAS: In fact your report says that the attacks
were actually targeted against tribes of what you describe
as African origin. Any particular reasons why this particular
group because this to me would smell of ethnic cleansing?
DIAZ: Yes the tribe the attackers are described are
members of the Habbania tribe, which is called an Arabic
tribe and the people who were attacked belonged to groups
described as being of African origin. This is not the
first time that these villages have been attacked the
same group, by the same people from the Habbania tribe.
We had reports in April that there were attacks also
conducted by the Habbania tribe on civilians in this
same area.
C-THOMAS: Now these attacks, in my view, certainly
would not have just happened or occurred out of the
blue, there must be some root cause to all of this.
Have you been able to put your finger on that?
DIAZ: Well the conflict in Darfur is a very complex
one and its origin doesn't date from yesterday. There
are questions of dispute over land over territory for
grazing, the conflict between pastoralists and nomads
and it has taken on an ethnic character where you have
people generally described as being of Arab origin pitted
against people described as of African origin. I think
whatever the cause of the conflict, the fact is that
it deals with massive and grave violations of human
rights occurring on a daily basis. Things are, according
to all accounts getting worse even since the signing
of the Darfur Peace Agreement in May and the people
who are suffering the most are civilians. We have over
two million displaced, a figure of over 200,000 people
killed and no sign of any immediate improvement.
C-THOMAS: Jose, you have already stated that you conducted
interviews with survivors of the attacks. Do you know
for sure that these are real victims, legitimate survivors
and certainly not impostors who want to exploit the
situation?
DIAZ: Well the human rights officers who conducted
the interviews know the area that they work in and the
people that they interviewed were people who came from
the area that were affected. These are people who were
fleeing, they were displaced persons. It was testimony
that was corroborated by other evidence and other accounts
that were cross-checked. Si we are pretty confident
that the accounts eye witness accounts that we got and
that the evidence from different sources is accurate
and that these people were victims of these attacks
and that large number of people might have been killed.
C-THOMAS: Now you have also urged the Government of
National Unity of Sudan to launch an independent inquiry
to investigate the events. What sort of response, if
any, have you received so far from the government?
DIAZ: As far as we know here in Geneva we don't have
an official response to that specific call. This kind
of request is one that we make whenever we have these
kinds of reports of people being engaged with apparent
support from the authorities in human rights abuses.
And the minimum that the authorities can do is to launch
an investigation into what happened and bring those
responsible to account.
C-THOMAS: And while we await some firm action on the
part of the government what now is the status of the
delivery of aid, medical assistance, reunification of
families and the return of the displaced population.
DIAZ: The humanitarian agencies of the United Nations
and other international governmental and non-governmental
organizations are working on that aspect of the problem
delivering aid to the affected populations especially
the people who are displaced internally in Darfur. But
we continue to get reports of this delivery of aid being
hampered by deliberate attacks on aid workers and aid
convoys. So that situation is still quite delicate.
PRESENTER:
That was Jose Diaz, the spokesman for the United Nations
High Commissioner for Human Rights speaking there on
the line from Geneva.
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PRESENTER:
And still on the ongoing crisis in Darfur, the UN Humanitarian
Coordinator, Jan Egeland has urged Sudan's trading partners
to put pressure on the country's government to accept
an international force in Darfur. Speaking at a press
conference in Geneva this week, Mr. Egeland also spoke
about efforts to consolidate peace in Northern Uganda
as talks between the government and the Lord's Resistance
Army, the LRA, continue in southern Sudan. Yvette Morris
reports.
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NARRATOR:
The UN Humanitarian Coordinator said it would take a
heart of stone not to understand the plight of the women
and children of Darfur who are suffering disproportionately.
In some areas masses of people have no food.
CUT 1: JAN EGELAND
It is now around the quarter of a million people we
have no access to and that is down from the 450,000
in July. But what is worrying is that 140,000 people
have now gone without food aid for four consecutive
months and there are not many other sources of food
in the desert after so much war.
NARRATOR:
Mr. Egeland urged the international pressure on Khartoum
to accept United Nations troops. He said it was time
to make the government of Sudan understand that the
UN forced was not a western project but a global one
in solidarity with Sudan and the people of Darfur.
CUT 2: JAN EGELAND
What we need is a wider global diplomatic effort. This
global UN force which we need to provide security and
safety for the civilian population for humanitarian
work should be put by ASEAN governments, by African
governments, by Arab governments, by Islamic countries.
Everybody should be concerned over the dramatic increase
in abuse of the civilian population, in rape of women
that we can document.
NARRATOR:
Mr. Egeland expressed optimism about the situation in
Northern Uganda where current peace talks were making
progress in dealing with what has been one of the world's
most neglected emergencies in which 150,000 children
had been kidnapped. He nevertheless described the ongoing
peace talks as an extremely fragile process.
CUT 3: JAN EGELAND
The next few weeks will be absolutely crucial for whether
or not we can bring to an end one of our generation's
worst wars. Few other places on earth has so much suffering
been inflicted on a civilian population. Eighty per
cent of the Ocholi people were displaced in Northern
Uganda. I am hopeful that we can now see an end to it
all, but then we have to be creative, we have to be
courageous, we have to be flexible in assisting this
African -led peace process.
NARRATOR:
Jan Egeland, United Nations Under Secretary-General
for Humanitarian Affairs. Yvette Morris, UN Radio Geneva.
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PRESENTER:
African countries are increasingly embracing democratic
elections as a preferred way of transferring power from
one rule to another. Although the continent still has
a long way to go to ensure that the practice of elections
becomes the rule rather than the exception, many countries
now conduct elections regularly. The United Nations
is closely watching this situation and is encouraging
and helping African countries to entrench the culture
of democratic elections. One such country is the Gambia
which held presidential elections which were won by
President Yahya Jammeh last month. The Special Representative
of the Secretary-General for the Gambia, General Abdulsalami
Abubakar has briefed the Security Council on the elections.
UN Radio's Derrick Mbatha discussed the elections with
General Abubakar who says he was impressed by the how
they were conducted.
3'49"
ABUBAKAR: People stayed in their queues and it was peaceful.
Of course, in any elections there are one or two incidences.
One of the incidences that we noticed was the security
people who came to vote in uniform. But this is perfectly
legal, as allowed by their constitution.
MBATHA: Why would that create some concern? Is it because
the uniform maybe can have some effect on civilians?
ABUBAKAR: Well the opposition is accusing the presence
of people in uniform form some intimidation on the voters.
That's their concern. But it is allowed by their constitution
and electoral laws.
MBATHA: And how was the overall turnout?
ABUBAKAR: Well the turnout for the 2006 presidential
election is a little bit disappointing, considering
the turnout. You had only fifty-eight per cent of the
registered voters compared to the 2001 election where
89 per cent people came to vote. So there is a little
bit of voter apathy this time around.
MBATHA: What role did the media play in the run-up
elections in the Gambia?
ABUBAKAR: Well I was not in the Gambia before the elections
so I can't say much. But we have received a report from
the UN in-country people saying that yes the Gambian
Radio and television services gave airtime both to the
ruling party and to the opposition political parties.
However, there is a rider to that that more attention
is given to the activities of the president during news
reporting fully.
MBATHA: I understand also there was an innovative way
of voting where people used marbles. Can you tell me
about that?
ABUBAKAR: Exactly. I found it is very very interesting
method, especially for an illiterate society. This is
a rig proof election. There is no way you can rig election
using that marble. It is ingenious and I wish other
people could borrow a leaf from that. People come in.
They are given a marble. They go into the polling booth.
They cast their vote into the drums for the various
candidates. And once they drop the marble into the drum,
it rings a bell to let people know yes the voter inside
has cast the vote.
MBATHA: How is it differentiated?
ABUBAKAR: For each candidate there is a colour and
the picture of the candidate is attached on the drum.
So for this election there were three drums. One was
coloured in green, one in yellow one red, I think. And
the pictures of the contestants is attached to each
drum.
As a final question, are you optimistic that democracy
will thrive in the Gambia?
ABUBAKAR: From what I saw in the Gambia, I must say
I am impressed and I believe Gambia has hope because
talking after the election with all the opposition and
ruling party, everybody is talking about maintenance
of peace in the Gambia. Also, talking to the citizens
of the Gambia, really all of them, they cherish the
peace and everyone of them is talking, 'look, we are
the same people. We don't have any problem. We must
maintain peace because peace is essential for the maintenance
of the tourism in the Gambia. I believe my interaction
with the politicians give me some hope that really democracy,
if assisted in the Gambia it will thrive.
PRESENTER:
That General Abulsalami Abubakar the Special Representative
of the Secretary-General for the Gambia.
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PRESENTER:
And that's all for this edition of UN and Africa. Our
producer was Derrick Mbatha, Production Assistant was
Beng Poblete-Enriquez and our sound engineer was Pete
Kurisko.
And from me Ransford Cline-Thomas, bye for now.
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