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The
Permanent Representative of Nepal to the United Nations,
Madhu Raman Acharya, was elected Chairman of the Fourth
Committee (Special Political and Decolonization) for the
sixty-first session of the General Assembly on 8 June
2006 .
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Q: The Fourth Committee has shifted away from issues of
decolonization as nations gained their independence, and has
taken on a more political focus. How prominent are issues
of decolonization in this Committee today?
A: As the main wave of decolonization is already completed,
I wouldn't say that decolonization is the most prominent issue.
But certainly there are remaining issues that need to be addressed.
The Committee is still engaged in a discussion of certain
territories that are in question. That said, the United Nations
has made significant progress in this area.
Q: The UN Member States include many formerly colonized
nations. Do these States ever have occasion to offer insights
or act as models to currently occupied peoples?
A: There should be. Many Member States were colonies
at one point in time and have since had the choice to exercise
their right to self-determination-they have had referendums
and have reached agreements with their former colonizers,
and in this process the United Nations was instrumental.
As someone from Nepal, which has always been independent
and was never colonized, it is a unique experience for me
to look at the issues of decolonization. This world should
be free from colonization. We're already into an era which
provides for self-determination for peoples around the world.
Colonization should be a thing of the past.
Q: A major issue that has emerged in the Fourth Committee
is an investigation into the Palestinian territories. What
are some of the challenges in working with issues in these
territories?
A: There are two sides to this issue. One is the question
of Palestinian refugees, which the Fourth Committee deals
with, and especially the work of the United Nations Relief
and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA),
with its reports directed to the General Assembly. This is
quite challenging. The operations are messy, they are complex
and they include both humanitarian as well as development
aspects. The work is also difficult because of the complex
political climate in the region.
The other side of the Palestinian issue is the question of
human rights, which falls under the title Israeli Practices
in our work. We discuss the human rights situation of the
Palestinian people, which has become very challenging as well.
Because of recent events in the region, the issue has been
highlighted, and we have had very intensive debates. In fact,
we're going to vote on this issue very soon.
Q: Israel's representative has questioned the validity
of the Special Committee assigned to track its activities
in the Palestinian territories and in Syrian Golan. How does
this affects the Fourth Committee?
A: The Committee did discuss these issues at length
and the delegation of Israel did, in fact, challenge the validity
of these agreements that were reached. It is the Committee's
job to encourage all sides to conform to international humanitarian
and human rights norms, and this is where the issue remains
to date.
While ideally it would be nice to have all Member States
conform to the system that has been put in place, we do understand
that certain delegations have reservations of their own national
interest. However, we must not forget the fact that these
situations exist-the practices are there; they need to be
addressed. And if a large, universal body like the United
Nations cannot address them, then nobody can.
Q: Recent UN peacekeeping operations in Lebanon have largely
been regarded as a success. Do Member States characterize
them the same way? What, in your opinion, makes a peacekeeping
mission successful?
A: United Nations peacekeeping operations have faced
increasing challenges due to the surge in the need for these
operations worldwide. The UN capacity to deploy an increasing
number of troops is a bit overstressed. But ideally a successful
peacekeeping mission must adhere to certain principles. There
must be consent on all sides, international cooperation, proper
mandate and then rules of engagement for the troops need to
be laid out.
I can speak on the Lebanon peacekeeping mission specifically,
as I come from a country that contributed troops there recently.
The fact that there was this quick agreement and that there
was a lot of acceptance in the situation on the ground-things
have changed a bit after this deployment. These are reasons
for everyone to be happy. Nonetheless, there are challenges;
we still have no resolution to what will happen to the armed
troops lying around, for instance. The situation is still
relatively volatile.
Q: Member States have raised concerns about the occasional
misconduct of UN peacekeeping troops. What kinds of suggestions
have been raised in the Fourth Committee to solve this problem?
A: This year, the United Nations General Assembly
pulled together a group of legal experts to submit recommendations
concerning the conduct of personnel, including in the issue
of sexual abuse and harassment. That group has come out with
a report, which is quite extensive. Unfortunately, the Committee
has not yet had a chance to look at it for technical reasons-it
must first go to a Special Committee on Peacekeeping Operations.
But the Committee in its general debate dealt with this issue,
because we cannot let the image of the United Nations be tarnished
by the misconduct of some individuals. We have to put into
place a system that really controls and discourages this,
and really takes action against people who indulge in these
kinds of activities. There is a kind of general acceptance
that we should work toward a very stringent regime of enforcing
rules among the peacekeepers.
One of the issues being discussed is who should take responsibility
for disciplining UN troops. There are three ways of doing
this: one is that the UN takes action against its own personnel,
the second is that the country where the crime takes place
leads this action-if their legal system is strong enough,
we can give consent for them to do this-and the third is that
the personnel's own country, with its own legal practices,
can do it back home. We haven't yet settled these complex
issues, but we're considering both who has jurisdiction and
who has the better legal and administrative capabilities to
handle these matters. I personally believe that we should
put into place structures that give the UN more flexibility
in handling personnel matters when they are under the UN umbrella.
Q: Have there been any other issues that really stood
out to you at this year's session?
A: The issue of outer space, which should be used
universally by all humankind, and not just by a few States-this
is an interesting topic. Some Member States have also highlighted
the effects of the atomic radiation tests that have been taking
place in some territories. The gravity of both dictates that
the United Nations, as a universal global body, should delve
into these issues, so that they don't later become confined
to some Member States.
Q: What was it like to chair the Fourth Committee? What
was the most difficult aspect of the work and the most rewarding?
A: I don't think there were too many truly difficult
things about chairing the Committee. However, I did have the
very interesting and unique experience of having to negotiate
with concerned Member States on the issue of Western Sahara,
however. This is one of the most challenging issues in the
Fourth Committee, one of those remaining issues of decolonization
where the right to self-determination has not shown any progress.
The concerned parties were expected to arrive at a consensus,
but instead they decided to go to a vote-and I must report
that no further progress has been made. We must continue to
encourage them to try to reach a consensus on this matter.
Overall it's been a very rewarding experience. I've learned
quite a lot of things, and Member States and delegates have
been very cooperative. I'm also getting used to the UN rules
of precedent, which are quite complex. We've been able to
meet with the Secretariat and listen to senior UN personnel,
like the head of Peacekeeping Operations and Mr. Shashi Tharoor
on public information-another area of the Fourth Committee's
work. Chairing the Committee has indeed been a very interesting
and positive experience.
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